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CLAN TOURNAMENT
« on: May 20, 2011, 11:15:27 AM »
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Hello everybody,
Hallo alle zusammen,

after the last clan fight against =AEC= the rumours about the whole enemy clan cheating etc started again. Wasn't there this time but it remembered me of the last clan fight vs. =LM= where I was playing as well and shouted this stuff as well. After all I'm somehow embarrassed because I never noticed or thougt of the fact that the others probably are just training and we obviously aren't, we are mostly a bunch of ego-players, each one good on his own, but WE SUCK AS A TEAM!! At least we're not that good... I have to add it's not that I'm genius, this thought came over me, it was our newest member, and one of our best team players I think, IkKeJr. I had the chance to play some really nice rounds over the last two weeks with him, TPMAsta and several different players and even though we didn't win all the games, our squad started to get quite good thanks to IkKe.

So what I was thinking about (with Asra), we could start a clan tournament, do not confound with the Smackdown, where we will draw the squads and the winning squad will get a price. We would play different gamemodes, Conquest (Gold Squad Pin wins), Squad Death Match (well winning team wins) and Rush (Gold Squad). Further team work will be required. It's just a beginning, later on we could start the real Squadtraining with the same squads and maybe one day we can defeat some enemy clans!! One still remaining problem is that we have kind of two clans (America and Europe), that's why I think it's the best if these two parts train each on its own and we could meet once or twice per month for the ultimate clan tournament or something like this.

Nach dem letzten Clan Fight gegen =AEC= hieß es wieder, dass der ganze Clan cheatet und ähnliches. Ich war diesmal selber nicht dabei, aber das hat mich an den letzten Clan Fight gegen =LM= erinnert als ich auch mitgespielt habe und ebenfalls die Gegner als Cheater beschimpft habe. Im Nachhinein ist mir das allerdings ein wenig peinlich, weil ich komplett ausgeblendet habe, dass die wahrscheinlich einfach ein richtiges Clan Training haben was wir ja überhaupt nicht machen, im Großen und Ganzen sind wir ein ziemlicher Ego-Player Clan, jeder im Einzelnen eigentlich ziemlich gut, aber als Team sind wir einfach SCHEIßE!! Naja auf jeden Fall nicht gerade die besten wie wir ja jetzt zwei Mal in kürzester Zeit erlebt haben… Allerdings muss ich zugeben, dass mir dieser Gedanke nicht von selbst gekommen ist, ich versuche auch lieber erst einmal alles auf die Gegner zu schieben, sondern der kam von IkKeJr, unserem neuesten Member und gleichzeitig auch einer unserer besten Team-Player wie ich finde. TPMasta, ich und mehrere andere Member haben in den letzten 2 Wochen mit ihm gespielt und auch wenn wir nicht jede Runde gewonnen haben, wurde unser Squad vor allem durch ihn in Sachen Teamplay stetig besser.

Also was ich mir (zusammen mit Asra) überlegt habe, wir könnten ein Clan Turnier machen, bitte nicht mit dem Smackdown verwechseln, bei dem wir die Squads auslosen und das Gewinnersquad einen Preis bekommt. Wir machen dann verschieden Gamemodi, Eroberung (Gold Squad Nadel gewinnt), Squad Death Math (Siegerteam gewinnt natürlich) und Rush (Gold Squad Nadel gewinnt). Außerdem muss dann auch wirklich Teamarbeit gezeigt werden, sonst macht das kaum einen Sinn. Des Weiteren sehe ich dies auch nur als Anfang für ein richtiges Squadtraining mit festen Squads eventuell und dann schaffen wir es vielleicht auch eines Tages die gegnerischen Clans fertig zu machen!! Ein Problem gibt es dabei allerdings immer noch und zwar besteht unser Clan mehr oder weniger aus zwei Teilen (Amerika und Europa), deswegen halte ich es für das klügste wenn jeder dieser Teile erstmal für sich selbst “trainiert“ und ein oder zweimal im Monat könnten wir uns für das Ultimative Clan Turnier treffen, zu etwas humaneren Zeiten allerdings.


So I'll post a list of all potential BFBC2-players I know, as well those that are not in the clan, but playing with us in our TS:
Hier eine Liste mit allen potentiellen BFBC2-Spielern von denen ich weiß dass sie es durchaus spielen wollen, können oder bereits regelmäßig tun, außerdem auch Spieler die zwar nicht im Clan sind aber immer wieder mit uns spielen und bei uns im TS sind:

Europeans:
- Secondhonor
- IkKeJr YES
- Asraelite YES
- Greyhound
- Amerzy YES
- Easyrider
- MichaDerStricher
- TPMAsta YES
- Kissshot
- CoolModie needs time
- Biggie
- Barjenuk
- Lumpi
- Badguoy (Britt-Clan)
- Hsfc (Friend of Biggie or IkKeJr I think)
- Ruud (friend of IkKeJr I think)
- Alexander (TPMs brother) no, too young
- Jaegowah (friend of Micha, TPM and me) no, needs windows
- Marco (FM-guy, friend of Easyrider)
- and me VivaLeSurf1
ABSOLUTELY YES

Northern-Americans:
- Zed needs time
- Devildog CLEAR YES
- Dodecohedron needs to move
- JDogExtreme no TS :-\
- Frog needs time
- Dr. Bone needs a new PC
- Dcdh needs a new PC
- JediJMB
needs a new PC

Well than just post what you guys think of this and please contact those that do not use our forum regularly so we have as many players as possible which equals with more fun!

Also dann schreibt einfach mal was ihr von der Idee haltet und bitte sagt denen, die nicht so oft im Forum unterwegs sind Bescheid, damit wir so viele Spieler wie möglich zusammen bekommen, desto mehr desto besser find ich!

SEE YOU GUYS ON THE BATTLEFIELD!!
« Last Edit: May 21, 2011, 06:23:06 AM by VivaLeSurf1 »


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CLAN TOURNAMENT
« on: May 20, 2011, 11:15:27 AM »

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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 12:28:33 PM »
Hallo, mit dem einen gebe ich dir recht! Und zwar unseren Clan Matches. Die meisten von denen haben wir verloren.Bei manchen habe ich früher selbst mitgespielt. Bei den letzten konnte ich nicht teilnehmen da ich zur Zeit, kaum Zeit zum spielen finde. Aber ich denke mal wie du schon sagtest, es ist wie immer gelaufen.... :(
Ich denke auch wir haben viele gute Einzelspieler. Deine Idee ist wirlich gut, training macht den Meister :)
Aber ich glaube an der Umsetzung wird es scheitern, da viele aus Europa kommen und viele aus Amerika. Der Zeitliche untschied ist zu gross.



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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 01:04:54 PM »
I would love to but this PC doesn't run the game that well so it makes my bad play even worse :-X

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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 01:20:02 PM »
Conqest and Rush are no good gamemodes for that. For Conquest it is the more playsers the more fun, so 4v4 is no fun... for Rush, a good game is between 8v8 and 12v12, if it is 4v4, the attackers will win.
I suggest Squad Rush and eventually Squad Deathmatch, although Squad Deathmatch is based on 16players, and I personally like it about 12 players. So with the wrong map, SQDM is a simple Campers game at 4v4.
Therefore, SQRush remains ;)

I would like to set some rules, like every team must have every kit, so one recon, one assault, one medic, and one engineer.
Picking up kits is not allowed
Either all weapons are allowed, or we limit some.
SQR is automatically inf only
We play some rounds, like in soccer, so win= 3pts, remis=1pt, defeat=0 pts.
I have already an idea for the grand price but I have to check where I will get that from...

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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2011, 02:37:44 PM »
No way, including conquest and rush, I mean if we get 16 players (which is possible), we can form 4 squads and have a 8 vs 8 on inf only maps.


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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2011, 02:54:27 PM »
How do we give points then? and if you want 8v8, it means we need a time where 16(!!!) guys must have time to play at the same time. I dont think that will work too good.
I tried something similar, earlier, and it wasnt working.

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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2011, 03:12:09 PM »
Training is a great idea. Practicing in the team play with distributed tasks and tactics makes us stronger.
Thanks Viva for write in 2 Languages.



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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2011, 04:24:30 PM »
Tournament and training are very good ideas.

I think we should start with the latter, just a few times before the tournament.
This so everyone can get used to the player next to him (in battle).

For me the most important thing is that everyone finds his place in the team.
With this as a base and some/a lot of training and tactics I think we can make it ^^


- Hsfc (Friend of Biggie or IkKeJr I think)

If with this you mean the guy whos nick on TS is: [hsfc] Britt! Biggie (and a lot of spam between those)?
Then its biggie :D


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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 06:48:51 PM »
i need copious briefings for good tactic.



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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 10:41:33 PM »
The thing is... we're a FUN oriented clan. Sometimes playing too seriously can be boring.  Although, we have good potential in the clan.  If some of you want to get serious, I'm quite sure you can achieve something.  Unfortunately, it will be without me.  I'm in a key moment in my career, so I need to have all my concentration at work.  I'm being involved in big projects, and I need that to garnish my CV.  I, and my girlfriend, have plans of moving to California, also called the green state or Terminator's no man land!

I will probably join a few smack-dpwn here and there, but nothing serious for me.

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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2011, 10:47:50 PM »
Bone's nor Derrick's system is up to it.  My son (JDogExtreme) cannot play while using teamspeak so any instructions he would receive would be from me and I would not be effective while trying to keep myself from getting killed.  Zed would be too busy yelling at me for being a dumb-ass.  I would then get pissed at Zed and refuse to speak to him.  I would then snap at my son for something and he would rage-quit.  Dode cannot play early enough to join.  Frog is too busy.  Jedi could moon-walk and distract the enemy for a few minutes while they are rolling on the floor laughing but they would tire of it and kill him repeatedly.  Sounds like a blast, when do we start??? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)


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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2011, 11:17:04 PM »
Viva I like the idea but I am like Bone and Derrick where my PC can't handle it.  I have been pushed by DD and Zed to upgrade but my focus right now is on the family.  You'll be in the same position someday.  I haven't given up, it's just delayed at the moment.  I like the "CAN DO" attitude you bring to the clan.  Don't lose it.

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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2011, 06:03:24 AM »
then just the europeens left ;)

my brother will not play bc2
jaegowah neither hasnt the game anymore and no windows -.- (spaten!)


maybe we just should start with a 4 guy squad at a normal server and try diffrent tactics ;) would be a first option!

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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2011, 06:13:41 AM »
Okay, I'm figuring out a first short resumee, just check out the names list above.

Also ich habe jetzt schon mal eine kurze Zusammenfassung der ersten Rektionen gemacht, guckt einfach mal die Spielerlieste ganz oben an.

I would like to set some rules, like every team must have every kit, so one recon, one assault, one medic, and one engineer.
Picking up kits is not allowed

I think the rules and similar stuff is not important yet, maybe we should first of all get a team together that wants to play and then talk about the rules. Besides giving points in conquest mode or rush is not that difficult I think, Gold Squad Pin?

Ich finde über Regeln und genaue Vorgehensweisen brauchen wir uns noch keine Gedanken machen, wir sollten ersteinmal ein Team mit Spiel-willigen aufstellen und uns dann darüber einen Kopf machen. Außerdem ist die Punktevergabe bei Erorberung und Rush auch nicht so schwer wenn wir einfach nach der Gold Squad Nadel gehen, oder?

Thanks Viva for write in 2 Languages.

No problem ;D

Kein Problem ;D

- Hsfc (Friend of Biggie or IkKeJr I think)

If with this you mean the guy whos nick on TS is: [hsfc] Britt! Biggie (and a lot of spam between those)?
Then its biggie :D

I know Biggie and his nick, but lately I often saw someone having (hsfc) as his nick only and didn't know who this is.

Ich weiß wer Biggie ist und kenne seinen TS3-nick, aber in letzter Zeit habe ich immer mal wieder jemanden mit dem Nick (hsfc) gesehen und wusste nicht wer das jetzt ist.

The thing is... we're a FUN oriented clan. Sometimes playing too seriously can be boring.  Although, we have good potential in the clan.

I totally agree, it's nothing than fun, my intention was not to change regular fun players into warmachines. In the past 5 months (since I'm in) we only had two clan fights and this has nothing to do with getting seriously I think. I just want to develop the teamwork and give us a real chance of winning these battles and I think if we start playing together, we will automatically get better and this brings much more fun. Further the Clan Tournament should not be a training camp, more like a place to meet with the side-effect of getting better in team-work. Plus you can win something (Asras' job 8) )

So sehe ich das auch und die meisten anderen vermutlich ebenfalls, es geht hier nicht darum die, größtenteils, Gelegenheitsspieler in Kampfmaschinen zu verwandeln. In den letzten 5 Monaten (seit ich dabei bin) hatten wir gerade mal 2 Clanfights und das hat doch nichts mit seriös werden zu tun. Ich wollte einfach nur unser Teamwork fördern und uns eine echte Chance auf einen Clan-Fightsieg geben und wenn wir wirklich anfangen zusammen zu spielen, werden wir über kurz oder lang auf jeden Fall besser was im Endeffekt auch mehr Spaß macht. Des weiteren soll das Clan Turnier nicht ein Trainingscamp sein, sondern eher eine Ort an dem wir uns treffen mit dem positiven Nebeneffekt dass wir in Sachen Team-Work besser werden. Außerdem gibt es was zu gewinnen (Asras Job 8) )

Sounds like a blast, when do we start??? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

HAHA LOL

No translation needed I guess  ;)

maybe we just should start with a 4 guy squad at a normal server and try diffrent tactics ;) would be a first option!

Seems like this ends up that way, but it's an option, than the others will see how cool this is and want to join ;) Maybe we could even get 8 people together...

Sieht tatsächlich so aus als würde es darauf hinauslaufen, aber das wäre ja schon mal eine Möglichkeit das ganze ins Rollen zu bringen, dann werden die anderen sehen wir cool das ist und wollen auch mitmachen ;) Vielleicht kriegen wir ja sogar 8 Leute zusammen...

I like the "CAN DO" attitude you bring to the clan.  Don't lose it.

You guys killed my enthusiasm, I'm going to sleep and doing nothing more the next weeks...  ;D ;D


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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2011, 06:59:36 AM »
I'll ask Ruud033 if he wants to join us.

This is what we can do:



(sry for the too big image)
And this is only 1 round of the many we played yesterday.

This one started out as a very bad game (we got baseraped etc etc)
but we were able to turn the tide and pwn them.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2011, 07:05:44 AM by IkKeJr »


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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2011, 12:37:01 PM »
Common Ikke,

unbalanced ranks and unbalanced teams.  You were playing against dummies from my point of view.   ;D ;D ;D
You look skilled to me, but this SS doesn't show me much ;)

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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2011, 03:00:37 PM »
this i my 2 week msg lol in another 2 weeks i may end up making another post :P.
anyways ya my current computer is a peice of crap and i can't wait to get a new 1 and smash this 1 :D, plus i have been somewhat busy with work and in the process of getting another part time jobs for nights and weekends. I am also looking into a job in labador for 4 weeks on 2 weeks off 20$/hr starting as a labour aloneand housing and food provided :D



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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2011, 08:29:58 PM »
unbalanced ranks and unbalanced teams.  You were playing against dummies from my point of view.   ;D ;D ;D

In the beginning we were playing 8 vs 12 with high ranks on the enemy team.
Like i said we got bASSraped and our team sucked balls (thats where the 24 deaths came from)
Once we got the chopper our team was able to leave our base (after 10 minutes noobing) and cap some flags

This shows that you dont need much players to own on a server.
If you have a good coordinated squad you can pull almost anything of...

You look skilled to me, but this SS doesn't show me much ;)

There is only 1 way to find that out ;)

I have to admit that we were chopper whoring so the SS in some way doesn't show you much indeed.


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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2011, 11:19:08 PM »
Remembers me when I and my bro used to fly the MEC chopper in Sharqi (BF2), we would rape TV station, and get 50/1 kill ratios.  However, you need more than killing to win matches.  Capturing flags is the key, and to do so you need to know the battlefield, plus you need to play as a team, especially when you're 32 players on a 4 flags map. I've seen worst in BF2 with 64 players...

Good luck soldiers! Practice makes perfect!

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Re: CLAN TOURNAMENT
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2011, 01:32:08 PM »
Ok guys i want to play also, he and VIVA, the guys of the =AEC= where cheaters 100% i whas there also see them do things they where not allowd.

He but its for the fun to play so lets kick some ass

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